That’s a broad barrelled statement that I think is fundamentally incorrect.

Loathing I think far more commonly comes from Anger and a sense of being powerless.

I loathe many things that I know a great deal about. No matter how much I know about Yawehistic cults and organised religion in the west, I’m powerless to meaningfully influence the things that make me angry about them.

I think you’re seeing the hipster self loathing and ‘If I can’t be a movie star, then fuck everyone’ mentality – which is coupled with a shitload of ignorance and fear I admit – and seeing that as the source of the loathing – rather than another symptom.

I should probably be wearing skinny red jeans and cutting myself while I say this – but Hipster culture’s biggest flaws are a reflection of the rage of the cultural group that came before it.

In between Gen X and Gen Y, there’s a bunch of people who have our strongest cultural influences in that period between Kurt Cobain’s death and the popular success of My Chemical Romance.

There’s not a cute name for the middle ground – but Gen Y is an annoying echo of that cultural period. It’s a bunch of douche bags taking the obsession with Irony, Sarcasm and Anger at everything and missing the point alternately.

I feel like a geriatric hippy complaining about modern dope heads that’ve missed the point. But it irks me that the angers and causes of all the people I admired and idolized – and hell my own angers, causes, passions and vexations are being increasingly recast as a product of whiny douche bags with unsatisfied narcissism issues.

Maybe I’m romanticising my own youth – but I remember it was cool to hate things because they were fucked up and needed to be fixed. It seems like now it’s cool to hate things because you’re not a celebrity.

Matt Damon I think said in an interview on Australian television years ago, that once upon a time people were famous because they were special. Sometime in the last 20 or so years, we’ve shifted towards (and run headlong to embrace) the idea that now people are special because they’re famous. I think at the core of pretty much every hipster moron’s loathing is a fundamental anger that they aren’t famous and therefore aren’t special. And fundamentally – they’re powerless to change that.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article5325327.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2

Doesn’t invalidate the point you’re trying to make or anything, but I came across it and thought I’d let you know.

Being a lonely outcast would keep you from reaping the rewards society gives to those who join up, follow suit, and “play by the rules”. I’d speculate that you enjoy those rewards, no? Therefore not getting those things would make you unhappy and cause you to not look upon your reflection took positively. A life of rebellion is one that is evidently not for you.

Hope you had a good thanksgiving man.

- Society favors those who are good looking.

- There is a huge net benefit to fitting into some class or subculture of society and that means playing by the ingroup’s rules.

- We want people to respect us.

- While the attitude of the kid with the afro is ideal the style certainly isn’t – who wants to be an outcast?

Your statement that ‘the only person who needs to like you is yourself’ is sitting wrong with me. I’m sure we all know a lot of people who think they’re awesome but are anything but (Ryan was just talking about this over the last few weeks). Besides, I don’t know about you but I’d be pretty upset if I was the only one who liked me.

Ryan this was a solid post. Amazing insight.

Related: I know a couple of guys in my classes who get pretty good marks but make a point of showing how they “don’t study”. For sure, their mark as a function of effort is exceptionally high, but I’d rather get high marks and pay the cost of working for them.