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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11719</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you cared about the entire back-and-forth between AA and this 22-year-old, but his level of arrogance wasn&#039;t really that high at all. It was more frustration and optimism. Like you mentioned, he&#039;s 22, and well-educated, and has talent. As you&#039;ve said, young people who work in careers like this actually know what the fuck they are doing, and rise to the top once they finally get a job.

He mentions in his post that he did know about a lot of the channels that website refreshes have to go through, and understands the bureaucracy behind a significant undertaking. What he also mentions is that he&#039;s lucky enough to have been a part of several projects were instead of concern for everyone&#039;s ego&#039;s and pet projects those who were hired to redesign a website were trusted to do their jobs, and make accommodations later.

The problem he saw was definitely deeper than the front-page, and his solution was actually a very honest and simple one. Change, now. You are losing business, and you don&#039;t have to. Why make bureaucracy an excuse, for a company that&#039;s a very bad one. It means the company is being pulled in too many directions and should fire a lot of people, and reorganize others.   Airlines specifically do a large portion if not a majority of business online, and in the AA response there didn&#039;t seem any risk involved in simply changing the website and dealing with everyone after.

If it was my job, and I was forced into that level of complacency where my time was well-spent telling off bloggers, than I&#039;d start shopping for a new one, or take the risk of implementing a design I was hired to do and accept the risk and the reward that it may bring.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you cared about the entire back-and-forth between AA and this 22-year-old, but his level of arrogance wasn&#8217;t really that high at all. It was more frustration and optimism. Like you mentioned, he&#8217;s 22, and well-educated, and has talent. As you&#8217;ve said, young people who work in careers like this actually know what the fuck they are doing, and rise to the top once they finally get a job.</p>
<p>He mentions in his post that he did know about a lot of the channels that website refreshes have to go through, and understands the bureaucracy behind a significant undertaking. What he also mentions is that he&#8217;s lucky enough to have been a part of several projects were instead of concern for everyone&#8217;s ego&#8217;s and pet projects those who were hired to redesign a website were trusted to do their jobs, and make accommodations later.</p>
<p>The problem he saw was definitely deeper than the front-page, and his solution was actually a very honest and simple one. Change, now. You are losing business, and you don&#8217;t have to. Why make bureaucracy an excuse, for a company that&#8217;s a very bad one. It means the company is being pulled in too many directions and should fire a lot of people, and reorganize others.   Airlines specifically do a large portion if not a majority of business online, and in the AA response there didn&#8217;t seem any risk involved in simply changing the website and dealing with everyone after.</p>
<p>If it was my job, and I was forced into that level of complacency where my time was well-spent telling off bloggers, than I&#8217;d start shopping for a new one, or take the risk of implementing a design I was hired to do and accept the risk and the reward that it may bring.</p>
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		<title>By: JanusthePhoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>JanusthePhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I had a nickel for everyone I&#039;ve met who simply could not grasp the concept that if something doesn&#039;t make sense, it is very rarely because everybody else is dumber than them. Like you say Ryan, they overlook the rest of the picture. Cable news pundits make their living on people who can&#039;t get past this concept. Good post.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had a nickel for everyone I&#8217;ve met who simply could not grasp the concept that if something doesn&#8217;t make sense, it is very rarely because everybody else is dumber than them. Like you say Ryan, they overlook the rest of the picture. Cable news pundits make their living on people who can&#8217;t get past this concept. Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11717</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who disagree with the AA example, make sure you read the response Dustin received from an AA design employee. He mentions how he has 6 re-designs sitting on file as well, but that so many parts of the company have autonomy over their own clusters of the site. The design team within AA is trying to do their work, but they&#039;re doing so within the confines of their system.

I&#039;d agree that upper management could benefit from Seth Godin&#039;s recent post about catching up with your online presence, but none of that changes what Ryan said -- The tone of what Dustin wrote was from the perspective of &quot;How can everyone else be so stupid to not do this instead?&quot; He doesn&#039;t apologize for saying the design team are idiots and that they should all be fired. He just blanks out what he said before and posts the response. But it&#039;s still the same song and dance &quot;Well someone else is a complete idiot that never gives any thought to this.&quot;

Is he wrong? Maybe not. Does he have anything to back up his opinion other than that it&#039;s the most convenient belief? No.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who disagree with the AA example, make sure you read the response Dustin received from an AA design employee. He mentions how he has 6 re-designs sitting on file as well, but that so many parts of the company have autonomy over their own clusters of the site. The design team within AA is trying to do their work, but they&#8217;re doing so within the confines of their system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree that upper management could benefit from Seth Godin&#8217;s recent post about catching up with your online presence, but none of that changes what Ryan said &#8212; The tone of what Dustin wrote was from the perspective of &#8220;How can everyone else be so stupid to not do this instead?&#8221; He doesn&#8217;t apologize for saying the design team are idiots and that they should all be fired. He just blanks out what he said before and posts the response. But it&#8217;s still the same song and dance &#8220;Well someone else is a complete idiot that never gives any thought to this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is he wrong? Maybe not. Does he have anything to back up his opinion other than that it&#8217;s the most convenient belief? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree Frog</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11716</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiffy websites are probably more valuable for one shot products. However, airlines generally sell a multiple use product (the flights) and consumers talk about their experiences. They talk a lot, too.

&quot;How was your flight?&quot; &quot;Horrible. Never fly Delta/Air India on a flight to/from London/random Congolese airline again.&quot;

Holiday&#039;s point is valid. Redesigning the AA website is pure fuckery when improving AA&#039;s actual flight experience to a point where it was superior would have millions of customers jumping through any and all hoops they have to buy tickets. Calling out AA for their web design take some degree of boldness, but it&#039;s born of a mindset almost entirely disconnected from real world results.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiffy websites are probably more valuable for one shot products. However, airlines generally sell a multiple use product (the flights) and consumers talk about their experiences. They talk a lot, too.</p>
<p>&#8220;How was your flight?&#8221; &#8220;Horrible. Never fly Delta/Air India on a flight to/from London/random Congolese airline again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Holiday&#8217;s point is valid. Redesigning the AA website is pure fuckery when improving AA&#8217;s actual flight experience to a point where it was superior would have millions of customers jumping through any and all hoops they have to buy tickets. Calling out AA for their web design take some degree of boldness, but it&#8217;s born of a mindset almost entirely disconnected from real world results.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11715</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you can &quot;see&quot; the Boston Celtics play basketball, doesn&#039;t automatically mean one can play &quot;like&quot; them..

Carlos

@hockeynuts

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you can &#8220;see&#8221; the Boston Celtics play basketball, doesn&#8217;t automatically mean one can play &#8220;like&#8221; them..</p>
<p>Carlos</p>
<p>@hockeynuts</p>
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		<title>By: Rat Fink</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11714</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is your first post of which I have to disagree with the premise. Several companies have lost my respect and business because their websites sucked, and I could have redesigned them to be better in a few hours. In a tight economy with competition, small luxuries like a user-friendly website or good customer service can mean the difference between profit and loss. My last boss knew this, and that is why his business is expanding while roughly 40 out of 110 others in the same industry have closed in this city.

Your point, however, is still good.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is your first post of which I have to disagree with the premise. Several companies have lost my respect and business because their websites sucked, and I could have redesigned them to be better in a few hours. In a tight economy with competition, small luxuries like a user-friendly website or good customer service can mean the difference between profit and loss. My last boss knew this, and that is why his business is expanding while roughly 40 out of 110 others in the same industry have closed in this city.</p>
<p>Your point, however, is still good.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11713</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is very little objective value in Dustin&#039;s redesign. No more than a random sketch of a building handed to a mayor or a councilmen by a resident.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is very little objective value in Dustin&#8217;s redesign. No more than a random sketch of a building handed to a mayor or a councilmen by a resident.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You display a cognitive bias here in the blog, Ryan, which is that you react to the way people say things as much as to what they say.  This is a problem.  For one thing, a lot of the tone that you&#039;re sensitive to -- condescension, arrogance, and so forth -- is just a remnant of the medium, which separates people from the consequences of their tone of voice.  When you say, &quot;you leave the analysis struck not by its value,&quot; the fact is that YOU leave the analysis in this way, and in doing so risk missing its objective value. It&#039;s not a virtue to get hung up on something that distracts you from value -- like making a judgement based on someone&#039;s tatoos.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You display a cognitive bias here in the blog, Ryan, which is that you react to the way people say things as much as to what they say.  This is a problem.  For one thing, a lot of the tone that you&#8217;re sensitive to &#8212; condescension, arrogance, and so forth &#8212; is just a remnant of the medium, which separates people from the consequences of their tone of voice.  When you say, &#8220;you leave the analysis struck not by its value,&#8221; the fact is that YOU leave the analysis in this way, and in doing so risk missing its objective value. It&#8217;s not a virtue to get hung up on something that distracts you from value &#8212; like making a judgement based on someone&#8217;s tatoos.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/cursory-genius/#comment-11711</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Dustin overlooked the bureaucracy that exists in a billion dollar corporation like AA. But I wouldn&#039;t write-off his unsolicited redesign completely.

Now you could be right that their website is not a priority. Perhaps AA&#039;s focusing on some more important, profitable initiative (e.g., new entertainment consoles). I&#039;d like to believe that. But it&#039;s more likely that AA is just not a very technology-focused company. The website will never be a strategic priority for the company, especially one that annually flirts with bankruptcy.

Perhaps Dustin is merely pointing out the immense benefits from a small investment in the website that could have a huge impact to customer experience. Now the politics to implement such a small investment are abominable (when I was at Amex, changing the background color on americanexpress.com cost well over six figures). But most of the politics exist from culture and inertia, not some overly complicated technical issue that naive 22-year olds cannot comprehend. This is a management issue, not a complex R&amp;D puzzle.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Dustin overlooked the bureaucracy that exists in a billion dollar corporation like AA. But I wouldn&#8217;t write-off his unsolicited redesign completely.</p>
<p>Now you could be right that their website is not a priority. Perhaps AA&#8217;s focusing on some more important, profitable initiative (e.g., new entertainment consoles). I&#8217;d like to believe that. But it&#8217;s more likely that AA is just not a very technology-focused company. The website will never be a strategic priority for the company, especially one that annually flirts with bankruptcy.</p>
<p>Perhaps Dustin is merely pointing out the immense benefits from a small investment in the website that could have a huge impact to customer experience. Now the politics to implement such a small investment are abominable (when I was at Amex, changing the background color on americanexpress.com cost well over six figures). But most of the politics exist from culture and inertia, not some overly complicated technical issue that naive 22-year olds cannot comprehend. This is a management issue, not a complex R&#038;D puzzle.</p>
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