Comments on: Paths and Consequences http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/ Meditations on strategy and life Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:06:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mbs http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9610 mbs Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:46:27 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9610 Exactly, Mr. Asterisk. Also, just the other day a gate hit me in the face and I yelled, "Owen nose! Owen nose!" so, toss politically correctitis out the door. Exactly, Mr. Asterisk.

Also, just the other day a gate hit me in the face and I yelled, “Owen nose! Owen nose!” so, toss politically correctitis out the door.

]]> By: * http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9609 * Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:18:04 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9609 My problem with your post isn't the post, it's your delivery. I made fun of Owen Wilson myself, but your post gives you an air of superiority. You might even say "narcissism" (Although that word's a little too strong). It is obvious that you feel like you're better than him. Are you? Possibly, but this looks more like a cheap attack on a man (who you feel is inferior) than a statement about selling your dignity (which is what I believe you were aiming for). My problem with your post isn’t the post, it’s your delivery. I made fun of Owen Wilson myself, but your post gives you an air of superiority. You might even say “narcissism” (Although that word’s a little too strong).

It is obvious that you feel like you’re better than him. Are you? Possibly, but this looks more like a cheap attack on a man (who you feel is inferior) than a statement about selling your dignity (which is what I believe you were aiming for).

]]> By: Ryan Holiday http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9608 Ryan Holiday Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:49:35 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9608 I would consider your personal integrity to be the same thing, but you're right, dignity is a better word. Your Robert dig is misplaced, btw. I would consider your personal integrity to be the same thing, but you’re right, dignity is a better word.

Your Robert dig is misplaced, btw.

]]> By: Charlie Murphy http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9607 Charlie Murphy Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:32:15 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9607 He's not selling his integrity, he's selling his dignity. Subtle linguistic difference. Selling your integrity might be more along the lines of, idk, writing a book with someone who glorifies violence, drug dealing and criminality via "Thug Life". It's a lot easier to sell your integrity than your dignity, because you can rationalize anything. The only cure for your whole life being a joke is "dehydration" apparently. He’s not selling his integrity, he’s selling his dignity. Subtle linguistic difference. Selling your integrity might be more along the lines of, idk, writing a book with someone who glorifies violence, drug dealing and criminality via “Thug Life”.

It’s a lot easier to sell your integrity than your dignity, because you can rationalize anything. The only cure for your whole life being a joke is “dehydration” apparently.

]]> By: Noel http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9606 Noel Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:01:33 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9606 @ RyanH That's one heck of a cheap jibe. I had to rub my eyes and take a second look. @ RyanH

That’s one heck of a cheap jibe. I had to rub my eyes and take a second look.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9605 Anonymous Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:45:34 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9605 I didn't know so many of Owen Wilson's close friends read this blog. You people have some deep insights into the motivation behind his suicide attempt. I'm actually surprised, you lot seem so much more high minded than a run of the mill movie star. Maybe you can help him straighten out his value system. Good luck with that. I didn’t know so many of Owen Wilson’s close friends read this blog. You people have some deep insights into the motivation behind his suicide attempt.

I’m actually surprised, you lot seem so much more high minded than a run of the mill movie star. Maybe you can help him straighten out his value system. Good luck with that.

]]> By: Matt http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9604 Matt Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:06:15 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9604 How I interpret the actions of others speaks volumes about how I understand myself. Sometimes it even says more about me than it does about anyone else. A study proving something we all pretty much know anyway: <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news6991.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news6991.html</a> How I interpret the actions of others speaks volumes about how I understand myself. Sometimes it even says more about me than it does about anyone else.

A study proving something we all pretty much know anyway:

http://www.physorg.com/news6991.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9603 Anonymous Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:52:05 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9603 there's no evidence that his professional life influenced his suicide attempt. if anything, it's likely that his success was the best thing in his life, shielding him from having to face unresolved personal issues that had plagued him his whole life. there’s no evidence that his professional life influenced his suicide attempt. if anything, it’s likely that his success was the best thing in his life, shielding him from having to face unresolved personal issues that had plagued him his whole life.

]]> By: Alex http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9602 Alex Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:54:10 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9602 Look at Wilson, and look at his life. Seriously, this is not ignorant - it deals with a very important issue. It's like Ryan said: you can't put a price on your integrity. Maybe I'm just different, but there is no amount of money you could give me to do something repulsive. And don't say "you're a liar, you would act in that movie for 10M". Why, to what ends? Ferris said it best - no one wants to be rich. No one. People only want the freedom that being rich supposedly provide. I'm not there yet, but I am sufficiently cognizant to realize that that money would change nothing, not really. Ryan's point is a good one simply because of Wilson's suicide. Is that not direct evidence that this isn't where he wanted to be? That instead of feeling this life right now, his hollow feeling of failure that every one of us feels encroaching upon us every day won, and dominates his life? Call it resistance, whatever. He didn't make it, he apparently lacks the fortitude to change his life, and as such he puts himself into a perpetual cycle of depression. The difference between Wilson and the average bum on the street? Monetarily, materially, large. Spiritually, in things that matter? Nothing. They'll both go in the ground just the same, just as I will, just as you will. It isn't even about Wilson looking at his work and seeing it as art or not. You think he wants to live like this? Do you truly believe, deep down, that if Owen Wilson looks inside himself, that this is the man he can become, the man he wants to become? Money is no issue to him, he's caught in a maelstrom of self-doubt, loneliness, and a distinct hollow feeling that accompanies the knowledge that you were born for more, that you can become more. And that knowledge is breaking him. Look at Wilson, and look at his life. Seriously, this is not ignorant – it deals with a very important issue. It’s like Ryan said: you can’t put a price on your integrity.

Maybe I’m just different, but there is no amount of money you could give me to do something repulsive. And don’t say “you’re a liar, you would act in that movie for 10M”. Why, to what ends? Ferris said it best – no one wants to be rich. No one. People only want the freedom that being rich supposedly provide. I’m not there yet, but I am sufficiently cognizant to realize that that money would change nothing, not really.

Ryan’s point is a good one simply because of Wilson’s suicide. Is that not direct evidence that this isn’t where he wanted to be? That instead of feeling this life right now, his hollow feeling of failure that every one of us feels encroaching upon us every day won, and dominates his life? Call it resistance, whatever. He didn’t make it, he apparently lacks the fortitude to change his life, and as such he puts himself into a perpetual cycle of depression.

The difference between Wilson and the average bum on the street? Monetarily, materially, large. Spiritually, in things that matter? Nothing. They’ll both go in the ground just the same, just as I will, just as you will.

It isn’t even about Wilson looking at his work and seeing it as art or not. You think he wants to live like this? Do you truly believe, deep down, that if Owen Wilson looks inside himself, that this is the man he can become, the man he wants to become? Money is no issue to him, he’s caught in a maelstrom of self-doubt, loneliness, and a distinct hollow feeling that accompanies the knowledge that you were born for more, that you can become more. And that knowledge is breaking him.

]]> By: Fenrir http://www.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9601 Fenrir Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:24:45 +0000 http://dev.ryanholiday.net/paths-and-consequences/#comment-9601 Is it any stretch of imagination to think Owen Wilson considers himself an artist? Imagine dedicating time and effort to a project and in the end all its worth is a few cheap laughs and comments. Do you think viewers take him seriously and see his work as art? After his suicide attempt what did he change? How did he divert his course from running against the same walls? Ryan's right, there is no mystery to this. Is it any stretch of imagination to think Owen Wilson considers himself an artist? Imagine dedicating time and effort to a project and in the end all its worth is a few cheap laughs and comments. Do you think viewers take him seriously and see his work as art? After his suicide attempt what did he change? How did he divert his course from running against the same walls? Ryan’s right, there is no mystery to this.

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