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		<title>By: Trent</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11050</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your main point is something I can agree with, but the Watchmen film isn&#039;t the best example.  I don&#039;t know what review you read but the aspects of Watchmen that the film focuses on are very much a product of its time.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your main point is something I can agree with, but the Watchmen film isn&#8217;t the best example.  I don&#8217;t know what review you read but the aspects of Watchmen that the film focuses on are very much a product of its time.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11049</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m accusing you of not seeing that your circumstances might not be as peculiar as you think; you are just more successful than most people in choosing your path through them.

Reality is made up of circumstances.  I&#039;m thinking the difference in reaction between you and your peers to that makes it hard to see the similarity in those circumstances.

Damn I hate saying circumstances over and over.

The argument is not about how to live your life, but whether historians have any business looking for &quot;eras&quot;.

I think they do.  At different points in its evolution, society must focus on different problem sets.  One of the major problems now we are trying to evolve past is the breakdown in value of the university system and a lack of mentoring. Hell, most of our institutions are breaking down.

&quot;Web 3.0&quot; is a good potential solution to this.

So, you are a front runner of an age, an age of institutional breakdown and a rise of individual power.  Most of these changes are brought on by technology.

If not for technology, if we only had mostly unchanging human nature I would agree with you, but technology changes the relationships in society, and that causes new problems that define ages.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m accusing you of not seeing that your circumstances might not be as peculiar as you think; you are just more successful than most people in choosing your path through them.</p>
<p>Reality is made up of circumstances.  I&#8217;m thinking the difference in reaction between you and your peers to that makes it hard to see the similarity in those circumstances.</p>
<p>Damn I hate saying circumstances over and over.</p>
<p>The argument is not about how to live your life, but whether historians have any business looking for &#8220;eras&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think they do.  At different points in its evolution, society must focus on different problem sets.  One of the major problems now we are trying to evolve past is the breakdown in value of the university system and a lack of mentoring. Hell, most of our institutions are breaking down.</p>
<p>&#8220;Web 3.0&#8243; is a good potential solution to this.</p>
<p>So, you are a front runner of an age, an age of institutional breakdown and a rise of individual power.  Most of these changes are brought on by technology.</p>
<p>If not for technology, if we only had mostly unchanging human nature I would agree with you, but technology changes the relationships in society, and that causes new problems that define ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Milky Way</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11048</link>
		<dc:creator>Milky Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt

I&#039;m sorry but I think you meant to say Ryan is &quot;Web 3.0&quot;, not 2.0.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I think you meant to say Ryan is &#8220;Web 3.0&#8243;, not 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11047</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the world is a large and complicated place in which you or I are very, very tiny parts of. To think that my situation is somehow indicative of transformative change in the universe is so laughably self-absorbed that I take it as a compliment when someone accuses me of not doing it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the world is a large and complicated place in which you or I are very, very tiny parts of. To think that my situation is somehow indicative of transformative change in the universe is so laughably self-absorbed that I take it as a compliment when someone accuses me of not doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11046</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you accusing me of not letting my own peculiar circumstances define how I view and judge the entire world around me?&quot;

How does that make sense as a thing to do? And why/how is that even a desirable thing to do? I don&#039;t understand how you value that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you accusing me of not letting my own peculiar circumstances define how I view and judge the entire world around me?&#8221;</p>
<p>How does that make sense as a thing to do? And why/how is that even a desirable thing to do? I don&#8217;t understand how you value that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11045</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the record, young kid who is very ambitious and gets taken under the wing of older, successful people is like the oldest story there is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record, young kid who is very ambitious and gets taken under the wing of older, successful people is like the oldest story there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11044</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt

Are you accusing me of not letting my own peculiar circumstances define how I view and judge the entire world around me?

That is everything I have tried to do with this site.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt</p>
<p>Are you accusing me of not letting my own peculiar circumstances define how I view and judge the entire world around me?</p>
<p>That is everything I have tried to do with this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11043</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You yourself are being pulled up by the current age right now.  You just don&#039;t have the distance to see it because you haven&#039;t been an adult in any other age.

I hate to use &quot;web 2.0&quot; to describe the era/sub-culture you are representative of, but it&#039;s close enough.  Do you really think you would have skipped college and had all these opportunities to work in various industries if you were an adult in the 80s?  Even if you did manage, the costs would be so different it wouldn&#039;t be the same experience.

Sure, you would have gone for &quot;sex and power&quot; and been successful somewhere, but without those experiences would you really be the same person?

Now magnify that. You really think the type of opportunities available and ideas at the forefront don&#039;t shape everyone a little?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You yourself are being pulled up by the current age right now.  You just don&#8217;t have the distance to see it because you haven&#8217;t been an adult in any other age.</p>
<p>I hate to use &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; to describe the era/sub-culture you are representative of, but it&#8217;s close enough.  Do you really think you would have skipped college and had all these opportunities to work in various industries if you were an adult in the 80s?  Even if you did manage, the costs would be so different it wouldn&#8217;t be the same experience.</p>
<p>Sure, you would have gone for &#8220;sex and power&#8221; and been successful somewhere, but without those experiences would you really be the same person?</p>
<p>Now magnify that. You really think the type of opportunities available and ideas at the forefront don&#8217;t shape everyone a little?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11042</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tex

Institutions, technology, and culture change. But people and their interactions are constant. Humans are and always will be social beings. Yeah, we&#039;re interacting at different levels and different medians, but the content of the interactions stays the same.

This is why the premise of the Watchmen is not necessarily limited to a specific &quot;era&quot; as defined by analysts and historians. Truly relevant works of art have universal premises. How else could else do you get movies like O&#039; Brother, Where Art Thou? Why else do we take the advice of ancient philosophers? It doesn&#039;t matter where or from what &quot;age&quot; the work comes from, the thing that matters is the work itself.

We could spend all our lives breaking down everything into convenient little witty labels. But in the end, who gives a shit? It&#039;s all masturbation and a great way to avoid seeing the world as it really is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tex</p>
<p>Institutions, technology, and culture change. But people and their interactions are constant. Humans are and always will be social beings. Yeah, we&#8217;re interacting at different levels and different medians, but the content of the interactions stays the same.</p>
<p>This is why the premise of the Watchmen is not necessarily limited to a specific &#8220;era&#8221; as defined by analysts and historians. Truly relevant works of art have universal premises. How else could else do you get movies like O&#8217; Brother, Where Art Thou? Why else do we take the advice of ancient philosophers? It doesn&#8217;t matter where or from what &#8220;age&#8221; the work comes from, the thing that matters is the work itself.</p>
<p>We could spend all our lives breaking down everything into convenient little witty labels. But in the end, who gives a shit? It&#8217;s all masturbation and a great way to avoid seeing the world as it really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Tex</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/the-age-of-ages/#comment-11041</link>
		<dc:creator>Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, what people wrote in their journals in 2008 was different than 2000.  People are now talking about layoffs and systemic collapse (this is not just historians and journalists, &lt;i&gt;people&lt;/i&gt; are talking about this) and during the &lt;i&gt;era&lt;/i&gt; of the dot-com boom people were feasting on free money and rarely discussing layoffs.  Also important: in 2000 they were writing their journals on paper and now they are broadcasting them to thousands of strangers.

If you are going to deconstruct humanity down to having sex, making money, and being entertained then you may be able to call zeitgeist bullshit.  There is much more subtlety to the way in which humans pursue these goals, and the era in which we live is a large influence there.  People aren&#039;t just having sex, they are having sex with many partners before marriage.  They aren&#039;t just being entertained, they are watching TV on the Internet and eschewing newspapers.  And they aren&#039;t even making money to begin with.  These are group experiences that cannot be divorced from the era in which we live.

Just look at what we are doing now - arguing with people across the world through a series of tubes.  The basics of it could have been done 300 years ago, but it would have been done in a stinky pub and the experience would have been entirely different.  So you could deconstruct it to &quot;people arguing,&quot; but that misses the whole point.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, what people wrote in their journals in 2008 was different than 2000.  People are now talking about layoffs and systemic collapse (this is not just historians and journalists, <i>people</i> are talking about this) and during the <i>era</i> of the dot-com boom people were feasting on free money and rarely discussing layoffs.  Also important: in 2000 they were writing their journals on paper and now they are broadcasting them to thousands of strangers.</p>
<p>If you are going to deconstruct humanity down to having sex, making money, and being entertained then you may be able to call zeitgeist bullshit.  There is much more subtlety to the way in which humans pursue these goals, and the era in which we live is a large influence there.  People aren&#8217;t just having sex, they are having sex with many partners before marriage.  They aren&#8217;t just being entertained, they are watching TV on the Internet and eschewing newspapers.  And they aren&#8217;t even making money to begin with.  These are group experiences that cannot be divorced from the era in which we live.</p>
<p>Just look at what we are doing now &#8211; arguing with people across the world through a series of tubes.  The basics of it could have been done 300 years ago, but it would have been done in a stinky pub and the experience would have been entirely different.  So you could deconstruct it to &#8220;people arguing,&#8221; but that misses the whole point.</p>
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