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		<title>By: amphibian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiring a brain trust to come up with a new society isn&#039;t hard; getting the people to change is the tricky part.

With large groups of people, it is infinitely easier to just add onto the old - like a coral reef - than to wipe clean the slate and start anew. Even though the redesign is more efficient, the old ways will still be used as long as things still get done. Look at computer programming.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring a brain trust to come up with a new society isn&#8217;t hard; getting the people to change is the tricky part.</p>
<p>With large groups of people, it is infinitely easier to just add onto the old &#8211; like a coral reef &#8211; than to wipe clean the slate and start anew. Even though the redesign is more efficient, the old ways will still be used as long as things still get done. Look at computer programming.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the world today with our modern technology and intelligence level you find that if society were re-designed today we would do things much differently. I&#039;d hire the top industry designers, engineers, scientists to re-think our approach to everything from housing, transportation, energy, clothing, farming, public education, etc.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the world today with our modern technology and intelligence level you find that if society were re-designed today we would do things much differently. I&#8217;d hire the top industry designers, engineers, scientists to re-think our approach to everything from housing, transportation, energy, clothing, farming, public education, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Kreindler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Kreindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a great article on Becker-Posner about the Kibbutz movement on Israel and why it failed. I don&#039;t know what you learned, but a kvutza is just a group of people who live together, usually who grew up on a kibbutz, and are loosely affiliated. I spent my summers at a camp modeled after a kibbutz (I hate socialism with a passion but it was great for teaching us responsibility and how to get along with others), so I have a decent understanding of these movements compared to others.

As for why people are still drawn to communism(in the case of the kibbutz and other collective movements in Israel - and quite honestly many Jews) is twofold.

The first is that the Jews who lived in Israel since time immemorial (they are small in number but they exist) as well as the settlers from Europe all lived Hobbesian lives previously; short, nasty, brutish, always looking over their shoulder for the next pogrom. Communism was coming into vogue, and they figured that since they share the same values, background etc they could band together to create a utopian socialist society in their historical homeland. This was also after an Enlightenment occured within the Jewish community, and many young people rejected Orthodox Judaism in favor of more liberal streams or rejected it outright and became Zionists(indeed, most Israelis are secular, and identify as Jewish culturally.

The second factor is the Jewish notion of &quot;Tikun Olam&quot;, which directly translates into healing the world. This principle states that Jews should strive to make the world a better place, and while many Jews have made their positive mark on the world, the unfortunate fact is that while we can proudly hold up Milton Friedman as a credit, we also have Karl Marx, Jacques Derrida etc.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a great article on Becker-Posner about the Kibbutz movement on Israel and why it failed. I don&#8217;t know what you learned, but a kvutza is just a group of people who live together, usually who grew up on a kibbutz, and are loosely affiliated. I spent my summers at a camp modeled after a kibbutz (I hate socialism with a passion but it was great for teaching us responsibility and how to get along with others), so I have a decent understanding of these movements compared to others.</p>
<p>As for why people are still drawn to communism(in the case of the kibbutz and other collective movements in Israel &#8211; and quite honestly many Jews) is twofold.</p>
<p>The first is that the Jews who lived in Israel since time immemorial (they are small in number but they exist) as well as the settlers from Europe all lived Hobbesian lives previously; short, nasty, brutish, always looking over their shoulder for the next pogrom. Communism was coming into vogue, and they figured that since they share the same values, background etc they could band together to create a utopian socialist society in their historical homeland. This was also after an Enlightenment occured within the Jewish community, and many young people rejected Orthodox Judaism in favor of more liberal streams or rejected it outright and became Zionists(indeed, most Israelis are secular, and identify as Jewish culturally.</p>
<p>The second factor is the Jewish notion of &#8220;Tikun Olam&#8221;, which directly translates into healing the world. This principle states that Jews should strive to make the world a better place, and while many Jews have made their positive mark on the world, the unfortunate fact is that while we can proudly hold up Milton Friedman as a credit, we also have Karl Marx, Jacques Derrida etc.</p>
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		<title>By: killians</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/things-id-like-to-know-about/#comment-8542</link>
		<dc:creator>killians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The communist issue is really interesting. In one of my classes, we learned about two neighboring communities in Israel: the Kvutza and the Moshav. The first was like our society, and the second was very communistic. Both were stable, but the Moshav had some issues. It had high level of intolerance for individuality, and at the same time was vulnerable to those who were different. Anyway, I think the only appealing aspect about the Moshov is that it forcibly eliminates isolation and inequality.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The communist issue is really interesting. In one of my classes, we learned about two neighboring communities in Israel: the Kvutza and the Moshav. The first was like our society, and the second was very communistic. Both were stable, but the Moshav had some issues. It had high level of intolerance for individuality, and at the same time was vulnerable to those who were different. Anyway, I think the only appealing aspect about the Moshov is that it forcibly eliminates isolation and inequality.</p>
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