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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10951</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, okay, aren&#039;t we doing exactly the same thing as WWGD right now?  There are probably a bunch of small struggling companies who treat their employees as well as Google does.  But Google works, and it works on a huge scale.  I don&#039;t think their success can be emulated by something as simple as sticking to your moral or psychological guns.

I think part of the answer to Ryan&#039;s question lies in Google&#039;s ability to find products that already exist, and improve them.  Search engine?  We&#039;ll build a better one.  Webmail?  We&#039;ll give you more storage space than anyone, and throw out Outlook Express because our web interface is better.  I don&#039;t know enough about the company to pinpoint more specific examples, but this seems to be more relevant.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, okay, aren&#8217;t we doing exactly the same thing as WWGD right now?  There are probably a bunch of small struggling companies who treat their employees as well as Google does.  But Google works, and it works on a huge scale.  I don&#8217;t think their success can be emulated by something as simple as sticking to your moral or psychological guns.</p>
<p>I think part of the answer to Ryan&#8217;s question lies in Google&#8217;s ability to find products that already exist, and improve them.  Search engine?  We&#8217;ll build a better one.  Webmail?  We&#8217;ll give you more storage space than anyone, and throw out Outlook Express because our web interface is better.  I don&#8217;t know enough about the company to pinpoint more specific examples, but this seems to be more relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10950</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John

There are a lot of people that want to paint morality as this big gray area of human understanding, where everything is indeterminate and subjective. But it is irrelevant whether there is some sort of universal morality when there clearly DOES seem to be a morality that holds for about 99% of the people you will encounter.

What Google understood is that it would be worth the extra energy and forfeited short-term profit to establish themselves on a plateau of morality and consistent effort. They knew that there was a level of effort that people would take advantage of and then there is a level of effort that people would admire and want to contribute to. To keep pushing through that first level takes some serious discipline and farsightedness.

Morality is not altruism. It&#039;s collaboration for mutual gain. But once you&#039;ve made your gains, it pays dividends to give away even more and to try new things. Like Ryan said, this has been the basis for common decency and personal growth since people began writing about such things. Now that companies must be as accountable as individuals, it makes sense that these &quot;rules&quot; would obtain in the business world.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p>There are a lot of people that want to paint morality as this big gray area of human understanding, where everything is indeterminate and subjective. But it is irrelevant whether there is some sort of universal morality when there clearly DOES seem to be a morality that holds for about 99% of the people you will encounter.</p>
<p>What Google understood is that it would be worth the extra energy and forfeited short-term profit to establish themselves on a plateau of morality and consistent effort. They knew that there was a level of effort that people would take advantage of and then there is a level of effort that people would admire and want to contribute to. To keep pushing through that first level takes some serious discipline and farsightedness.</p>
<p>Morality is not altruism. It&#8217;s collaboration for mutual gain. But once you&#8217;ve made your gains, it pays dividends to give away even more and to try new things. Like Ryan said, this has been the basis for common decency and personal growth since people began writing about such things. Now that companies must be as accountable as individuals, it makes sense that these &#8220;rules&#8221; would obtain in the business world.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10949</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you could write a post about some of your favourite blogs? I had a quick look in your archive and found what you think are the top three, and added the two I don&#039;t already read to my Google Reader. But other than that I don&#039;t have much quality there.

Keep up the good work.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you could write a post about some of your favourite blogs? I had a quick look in your archive and found what you think are the top three, and added the two I don&#8217;t already read to my Google Reader. But other than that I don&#8217;t have much quality there.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadia</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The leaders of google....are philosophers, thinkers...&quot;

&quot;When their needs are met, they naturally act in more psychologically healthy ways...&quot;

I&#039;ve always been annoyed with people who call themselves philosophers because they sit around and think but do nothing (and probably smoke a lot of weed).  Saying things like &quot;act that way&quot; &quot;allow freedom&quot; is extremely vague; that&#039;s more of the same talk.  It&#039;s not easy to be &quot;happier&quot; or &quot;more caring.&quot;  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s natural to behave in these ways, these people aren&#039;t inherently different.  It&#039;s a continuous conscious effort, examining their actions and possible outcomes -- really understanding this, people who check and balance each other when the shady alternative is the easiest.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The leaders of google&#8230;.are philosophers, thinkers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;When their needs are met, they naturally act in more psychologically healthy ways&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been annoyed with people who call themselves philosophers because they sit around and think but do nothing (and probably smoke a lot of weed).  Saying things like &#8220;act that way&#8221; &#8220;allow freedom&#8221; is extremely vague; that&#8217;s more of the same talk.  It&#8217;s not easy to be &#8220;happier&#8221; or &#8220;more caring.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s natural to behave in these ways, these people aren&#8217;t inherently different.  It&#8217;s a continuous conscious effort, examining their actions and possible outcomes &#8212; really understanding this, people who check and balance each other when the shady alternative is the easiest.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10947</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, while I still think psychological treatments (some) have a place in helping to deal with org issues.

It&#039;s a from the bottom up view, vs top down. Take care of the employee, who will choose take care of the org vs take care of the org which will keep the employee in line. Taking care being, acting in highest moral regard.... although that is subjective...Hmm.

I think that psychology applies to the individual, to better help them come up with strategy and philosophy which leads them to create the organization, it&#039;s values and culture. This leads to the actions that the company is able to take. Highly macavelian philosophies, created by leaders that are not healthy mentally who think that macavelian strategies are the way businesses work create companies that are highly macavelian.

The leaders of google and the like, I think, are philosophers, thinkers and idealists... and part of that is people try to live up to those ideals set up by their org. They take into account that people will act that way, and allow them the freedom too, while expecting them to live by higher standards. When their needs are met, they naturally act in more psychologically healthy ways, ie, happier, more caring etc...

They design an organization in accordance with their philosophies, perspective for the world, and knowledge... which is based on their psychology and how healthy they are mentally.

So their company is an extension of their perspective and psychology?

Thinking out loud,

John

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, while I still think psychological treatments (some) have a place in helping to deal with org issues.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a from the bottom up view, vs top down. Take care of the employee, who will choose take care of the org vs take care of the org which will keep the employee in line. Taking care being, acting in highest moral regard&#8230;. although that is subjective&#8230;Hmm.</p>
<p>I think that psychology applies to the individual, to better help them come up with strategy and philosophy which leads them to create the organization, it&#8217;s values and culture. This leads to the actions that the company is able to take. Highly macavelian philosophies, created by leaders that are not healthy mentally who think that macavelian strategies are the way businesses work create companies that are highly macavelian.</p>
<p>The leaders of google and the like, I think, are philosophers, thinkers and idealists&#8230; and part of that is people try to live up to those ideals set up by their org. They take into account that people will act that way, and allow them the freedom too, while expecting them to live by higher standards. When their needs are met, they naturally act in more psychologically healthy ways, ie, happier, more caring etc&#8230;</p>
<p>They design an organization in accordance with their philosophies, perspective for the world, and knowledge&#8230; which is based on their psychology and how healthy they are mentally.</p>
<p>So their company is an extension of their perspective and psychology?</p>
<p>Thinking out loud,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: John Pana</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanholiday.net/what-would-google-do/#comment-10946</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the first time ever, we are at the stage where  transparency and communication can excel in leaps and bounds due to low transaction costs.

He&#039;s on the right track, but it&#039;s the actual organisation and development of platforms that will get us there.

Great post.

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<p>He&#8217;s on the right track, but it&#8217;s the actual organisation and development of platforms that will get us there.</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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